Reduce and Remove


This post was contributed by a guest author, and does not necessarily reflect the views of Richard or MovetheMarkets.com


I am a retired fighter pilot turned trader. A lot of traders accurately compare trading to flying. As a newbie wanna-be pilot learning to fly a small propeller aircraft, I had to heed my instructor’s every word. To ignore advice would have meant getting killed or worse- failing! I have done my best to follow the trading advice of pros. Maoxian taught me, amongst other things, to always put a stop loss in. Trader X kept me in the markets with the advice to trade thirty minute set-ups and to play only the best trades. I devoured books and watched on-line videos. Still, it wasn’t until a short while back that I applied the axiom, “Cut your losses, and let your winners run!” to my trading. My decision to change trading methodologies came about after a conversation with my wife. She works in sales to supplement her teaching income. She was disappointed that her sales were down. I was trying to cheer her up and said, “Don’t worry. It’s like trading- just a matter of probabilities.” She agreed, “Yeah, and at least I don’t lose money when I have a bad day.” That triggered something in my mind. Phantom of the Pits had written about minimizing loss, and I revisited his words of wisdom:

“Positions established must be reduced and removed until or unless the market proves the position correct.”

I realized that I could and should minimize losses by closing trades that weren’t proving themselves. My P/L has greatly increased since that time.

When I first started trading full-time, I entered the best trade I could find each day. After setting my stop at –R1, I hoped like hell the trade would go my way. If a pick looked weak, I shouted encouragement to it: “Get up there, you piece of @$%&!” I was like a gambler standing beside a roulette wheel. “Come on, red!” I had no idea that I controlled the wager and that I had the power to remove it at any time. If I had let go of my attachment to being right, I could have taken my bet off the table when the ball started bouncing against my position. I just couldn’t seem to apply insights from the best traders in the world to my trading. Paul Tudor Jones said, “I am always thinking about losing money as opposed to making money,” and Victor ‘Trader Vic’ Sperandeo claims, “The key to trading success is emotional discipline. If intelligence were the key, there would be a lot more people making money trading… I know this will sound like a cliché, but the single most important reason that people lose money in the financial markets is that they don’t cut their losses short.

I was determined to improve my trading by appropriately reducing or removing weak positions. I studied my losing trades. What made them losers? Did I get stopped right away? Did I get slowly chopped up? I looked at my winners. What characteristics did most of them have? Were they successful right off the bat? When I enter trades now, I watch them after every candle print, after every tick. I ask myself if the trade is acting correctly. Is it breaking out similarly to past successful trades? Am I seeing a profit a designated amount of time into the trade? I ask myself if I should stay with the trade. For example, if I enter a trade long off the break of the second bar high and the next candle prints a shooting star what should I do? Should I exit? Is the trade proving correct? When my answer is no, I close the trade. Sometimes a closed trade works out. That’s OK. I prefer moving on to a pick that is proving itself and has an eighty percent chance of winning to keeping a mediocre trade with only a ten percent chance of meeting my expectations. I know that it is always more costly to let the market take out a trade than to close it first. The market is not favorable most of the time, so capital should be protected most of the time instead of hoped away.

I now have criteria for staying with trades. Some are cut and dry and depend on the charts. Some revolve around tape reading and feel. Optimal trades go my way from the get-go. Sometimes certain types of trades will go my way immediately, but they will hit less than R1 before aggressively retracing. That can be a sign of weakness. Sometimes volume drops off. Sometimes a doji signals sideways trading. Sometimes the market shoots against my position. There are hundreds of scenarios that can red-flag a mediocre trade. Recognizing each one just takes screen time.

Phantom of the Pits says:

“In a losing game such a trading, we shall start against the majority and assume we are wrong until proven correct. (We do not assume we are correct until proven wrong.)”

It took me a long while to decipher his words. Now when I see that a trade is showing weakness, I minimize losses by taking all bets off the table.


This post was contributed by a guest author, and does not necessarily reflect the views of Richard or MovetheMarkets.com


9 Responses

  1. John Says:

    great post zoomie

  2. Eyal Says:

    Indeed very good post. Made me think about my own management of open trades. I will be going back to evaluating my trades, yet again :).

    What did you fly btw? I was in the air-force when I was ‘young’, avionics.

  3. Zoomie Says:

    Eyal,

    Thanks. I saw your site. Great information you are sharing!

    I flew F-18’s. The military is where I was brainwashed, er I mean where I learned to follow rules. I had many conversations with you avionics guys…..ha. Went like this, “What’s wrong is…;)”

  4. Eyal Says:

    Thanks, Zoomie.

    lol I was working on F-15’s. Had a hard time deciphering those illegible ‘what’s wrong’ msgs in the log books ;)

    This is old but quite funny:
    http://www.bris.ac.uk/depts/union/Aerospaced/extras/extras_jokes.htm

  5. Ugly Says:

    Nice one man, that’s how I am trying to trade now.

  6. estocastica Says:

    That was truly insightful. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

  7. Zoomie Says:

    John, Eyal, Ugly, Estocastica,

    Thanks for the feedback! Thanks for your blogs. Time for me to start from square one again today. Everyday, huh? ;)

  8. LP Says:

    That was a really good post. I need to go back and evaluate my methodology. When I think about it, almost every successful trade has worked out shortly after entering. Really bad trades are the result of poor setups. And the rest of my losses have been from getting chopped up one bar at a time. Not only is this frustrating but I could have taken money off the table for a few cent loss rather than a 1/2R loss.

  9. Zoomie Says:

    LP,
    Thanks! I find that a lot of new traders don’t listen to the wisdom of seasoned pros. We need to listen to the cliches.

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