<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Simple Question</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/</link>
	<description>Futures Trading, Custom Programming, and Commentary</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:12:03 -0800</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: What Would You Do If&#8230; &#149; DummySpots.com</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4781</link>
		<dc:creator>What Would You Do If&#8230; &#149; DummySpots.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4781</guid>
		<description>[...] week or so by a few things: one was a post by Bass Ackward Trader over at Move the Markets called Simple Question, which reminded me of the Schadenfreude [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] week or so by a few things: one was a post by Bass Ackward Trader over at Move the Markets called Simple Question, which reminded me of the Schadenfreude [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Skyb0x</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4763</link>
		<dc:creator>Skyb0x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4763</guid>
		<description>The question sure does spark several human emotions:  Envy, Revenge..... In real life this situation would never arise.  I would like to say I would choose A but since this is fantasy land and there are no consequences for my choice, I would say B to destroy my enemies.  However, in real life I would choose A to buy weapons to destroy my enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question sure does spark several human emotions:  Envy, Revenge&#8230;.. In real life this situation would never arise.  I would like to say I would choose A but since this is fantasy land and there are no consequences for my choice, I would say B to destroy my enemies.  However, in real life I would choose A to buy weapons to destroy my enemies.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Floyd Upperman</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4741</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd Upperman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4741</guid>
		<description>Id go for A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Id go for A</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4738</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4738</guid>
		<description>will: leave some bread crumbs on that path to help guide me along the way...it sounds like you are well on your way to where i need to be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will: leave some bread crumbs on that path to help guide me along the way&#8230;it sounds like you are well on your way to where i need to be</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4736</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4736</guid>
		<description>I think this is part of the &quot;Schadenfreude&quot; phenomenon.  Here&#039;s a quote from an article about a study done by &lt;i&gt;Nature&lt;/i&gt;:

&lt;i&gt;...when the unfair player received a painful shock there was, at most, very little sign of anything registering in the empathy-related region of the men as opposed to the reward-related area where there was activity. They expressed more desire for revenge and seemed to feel satisfaction when unfair people were given what they perceived as deserved physical punishment.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know if y&#039;all allow hyperlinks in the comments, so I won&#039;t &quot;href&quot; it, but the article is at www.newswise.com/articles/view/51271/

There have also been similar experiments where you could have a hundred dollars, but someone else would get a thousand, or else you could have 10 and they would LOSE a thousand, and most people chose &quot;B&quot;.  We have some kind of instinctive need to adjust the RELATIVE position of ourselves to others (especially our enemies), and if we can take them down 10 notches by taking ourselves down one, we seem to gravitate towards that choice.

In my experience, traders very much enjoy seeing other traders lose and despise their gains, even though it&#039;s in private and their &quot;public&quot; reaction may be appropriately sympathetic or congratulatory.

I spent a good portion of my life frustrated that I was living as I was &quot;supposed&quot; to, as defined by my cultural surroundings and family of origin, yet no amount of skill or hard work equated to success, while for others who were simply fortunate enough to choose the right parents, everything came effortlessly even though they were often complete clods.

A couple of things changed my life:  One, some of the lessons of &quot;Walden,&quot; &quot;Zen and the Art,&quot; Alana Watts, even most of the stuff J.C. said which I had to quote from toddlerhood in those little country churches -- all began to take on a new meaning as I started to genuinely question my own attachment to human-defined success.  Two, &quot;Fooled By Randomness,&quot; which explained more clearly than anything ever has the disconnect between skill, effort and financial reward.

I now live more modestly than anyone I know who has &quot;half&quot; my income, I have a bit less of the &quot;I&#039;m gonna show them all&quot; mentality, and I&#039;m much more content with my lot in life and my mortality.  Also my daughters can observe (&quot;do as I say&quot; means very little, it&#039;s what I &quot;do&quot; that they imprint on) through me that the Hedonistic Treadmill is a sham, and sometimes going for a walk in the woods is more fun than any old wine-and-diamonds party.

Shit, I&#039;m rambling here.  Beer and burgers waiting, then work at 0600.  Later dudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is part of the &#8220;Schadenfreude&#8221; phenomenon.  Here&#8217;s a quote from an article about a study done by <i>Nature</i>:</p>
<p><i>&#8230;when the unfair player received a painful shock there was, at most, very little sign of anything registering in the empathy-related region of the men as opposed to the reward-related area where there was activity. They expressed more desire for revenge and seemed to feel satisfaction when unfair people were given what they perceived as deserved physical punishment.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if y&#8217;all allow hyperlinks in the comments, so I won&#8217;t &#8220;href&#8221; it, but the article is at <a href="http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/51271/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/51271/</a></p>
<p>There have also been similar experiments where you could have a hundred dollars, but someone else would get a thousand, or else you could have 10 and they would LOSE a thousand, and most people chose &#8220;B&#8221;.  We have some kind of instinctive need to adjust the RELATIVE position of ourselves to others (especially our enemies), and if we can take them down 10 notches by taking ourselves down one, we seem to gravitate towards that choice.</p>
<p>In my experience, traders very much enjoy seeing other traders lose and despise their gains, even though it&#8217;s in private and their &#8220;public&#8221; reaction may be appropriately sympathetic or congratulatory.</p>
<p>I spent a good portion of my life frustrated that I was living as I was &#8220;supposed&#8221; to, as defined by my cultural surroundings and family of origin, yet no amount of skill or hard work equated to success, while for others who were simply fortunate enough to choose the right parents, everything came effortlessly even though they were often complete clods.</p>
<p>A couple of things changed my life:  One, some of the lessons of &#8220;Walden,&#8221; &#8220;Zen and the Art,&#8221; Alana Watts, even most of the stuff J.C. said which I had to quote from toddlerhood in those little country churches &#8212; all began to take on a new meaning as I started to genuinely question my own attachment to human-defined success.  Two, &#8220;Fooled By Randomness,&#8221; which explained more clearly than anything ever has the disconnect between skill, effort and financial reward.</p>
<p>I now live more modestly than anyone I know who has &#8220;half&#8221; my income, I have a bit less of the &#8220;I&#8217;m gonna show them all&#8221; mentality, and I&#8217;m much more content with my lot in life and my mortality.  Also my daughters can observe (&#8221;do as I say&#8221; means very little, it&#8217;s what I &#8220;do&#8221; that they imprint on) through me that the Hedonistic Treadmill is a sham, and sometimes going for a walk in the woods is more fun than any old wine-and-diamonds party.</p>
<p>Shit, I&#8217;m rambling here.  Beer and burgers waiting, then work at 0600.  Later dudes.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Prospectus</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4733</link>
		<dc:creator>Prospectus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4733</guid>
		<description>I think I would choose B, or at least I&#039;d be sorely tempted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I would choose B, or at least I&#8217;d be sorely tempted.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4731</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4731</guid>
		<description>tyro: no, my issues are different...i just found it interesting that from what the author says, many people will choose an option that isn&#039;t in their own best interest, just to be the top dog...granted, my example took a few liberties, but i wanted to throw it out there, and see if anyone would admit to taking it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tyro: no, my issues are different&#8230;i just found it interesting that from what the author says, many people will choose an option that isn&#8217;t in their own best interest, just to be the top dog&#8230;granted, my example took a few liberties, but i wanted to throw it out there, and see if anyone would admit to taking it</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4730</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4730</guid>
		<description>Moral of the story, if you hate yourself more than anyone else, you can choose A and sextuple your income, while the person you hate second-most only triples theirs.  You can use your newfound financial leverage to make them miserable, which should make you both richer and happier, and probably only slightly more disgusted with yourself than when you started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moral of the story, if you hate yourself more than anyone else, you can choose A and sextuple your income, while the person you hate second-most only triples theirs.  You can use your newfound financial leverage to make them miserable, which should make you both richer and happier, and probably only slightly more disgusted with yourself than when you started.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tyro</title>
		<link>http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/comment-page-1/#comment-4725</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.movethemarkets.com/blog/2007/09/22/simple-question/#comment-4725</guid>
		<description>I&#039;d take &quot;A&quot;, no hesitation.  I don&#039;t wish ill on people I don&#039;t like, I just want them out of my life and one of the great things about being a trader is I can get that.  If I don&#039;t like someone, I don&#039;t have to ever see them again.  What does it matter to me if some people I don&#039;t like make more money than I do, I&#039;m sure I&#039;d hate most billionaires.

By your final comment about overcoming psychological hurdles, are you saying that you&#039;d chose B?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take &#8220;A&#8221;, no hesitation.  I don&#8217;t wish ill on people I don&#8217;t like, I just want them out of my life and one of the great things about being a trader is I can get that.  If I don&#8217;t like someone, I don&#8217;t have to ever see them again.  What does it matter to me if some people I don&#8217;t like make more money than I do, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d hate most billionaires.</p>
<p>By your final comment about overcoming psychological hurdles, are you saying that you&#8217;d chose B?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Dynamic Page Served (once) in 0.565 seconds -->
